A heated exchange unfolded on Wednesday during a live broadcast from 23:51 on Channels Television on Wednesday, December 3, 2025, as Daniel Bwala, Special Adviser to President Bola Tinubu on Policy Communication, sparred with anchor Uzonno Geoffrey over claims of Christian genocide in Nigeria. The interview became tense after the programme shifted to Nigeria’s worsening security situation.

One of the presenters highlighted a series of mass abductions across the country, saying: “In Kogi State, bandits abducted a pastor, his wife, church members, a non-determined number of persons. In Sokoto State, a bride, her close friend, and eight other residents were abducted by armed men in Chacho Village. We’ve had in the last eight days alone… a total of 395 persons reportedly abducted from seven states… out of which only 79 victims have been released.”

The anchor then asked whether the Tinubu administration was struggling to contain insecurity. Bwala pushed back forcefully. “So this is the problem I have. You know, when we started, I am more about solution, about what we’re doing. You know, when this whole crisis started, the first time was about debunking the notion of Christian genocide because we are about solution, people are about profiling. After we’ve debunked that, we say we are more about solution. My brother was the one that said, let me take you back. And by the time he took us back now, you people stayed at the back.”

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Geoffrey interjected, insisting: “I confronted you with the facts, Mr. Bwala.” Bwala disagreed. “No, you didn’t say any facts.” The exchange escalated when Geoffrey challenged Bwala’s characterisation of the issue, prompting Bwala to caution the anchor: “Retract that word. Don’t say that’s a lie. It is very wrong, as a journalist, to look at your guest and say that’s a lie. You can say it is factually incorrect, but you can never say that’s a lie.”

Geoffrey responded: “Let me say what I want to say.” The confrontation intensified as Geoffrey argued that Christian groups and foreign governments have raised persistent concerns about targeted killings. “Christians are being killed and you’re not doing anything about it… So you can’t dismiss that position and say you’ve dispelled it. It’s a mixed bag of those genocide argument, geopolitics, resource control, economic issue, criminality. So that’s why I’m saying it is not true.”

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Bwala fired back: “So what you just said is also a lie because let me tell you… What you just said is a lie because you gave a one-sided report of those who hold the position that it is a genocide. But you have failed to mention that Reuters, BBC, Sky News, CNN, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post… six of them have done their fact-check and came to the conclusion that there is no Christian genocide in Nigeria.” View, More,

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